Posted by they don't get it, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2012 at 9:27 am

This council, except for Means just doesn't get it. We are busy here, carting kids back and forth. No matter what you try to legislate, we are for the most part going to continue to drive our cars, face it. If you want mass transit, move to Europe. It is not feasible here. This whole thing couldn't come at a better time, a relevant time to vote out these so called representatives. Furthermore if you keep voting to stifle businesses, thereby reducing tax revenue, you did it to yourselves, cut your own expenses, do now even think about trying to raise my taxes or fees!

Posted by Proud of my council!, a resident of the Monta Loma neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2012 at 9:52 am

I ride mass transit and bicycle as often as I can. I applaud the efforts to make this even more feasible!

Posted by we do get it, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Believe it or not, the rejection of a drive-thru at this location does not mean that cars are not allowed to drive on El Camino. It's a terrible idea that would create safety and traffic problems in that neighborhood. Then, if you consider a possible 'grand boulevard' scenario, then it really doesn't make any sense.

I'm sorry that the landowner cannot charge high rent for their location. Unfortunately, there are quite a few stretches along El Camino that cannot charge high rent as they don't get the foot traffic. If property owners would get together and merge their land into larger multi-tenant shopping areas, then they could generate synergy to drive more traffic (read $$$) for the tenants and *then* the rents can go up.

Posted by no drive-thrus, a resident of the Old Mountain View neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2012 at 10:06 pm

Busy drive-thrus are a terrible traffic hazard if they allow cars to back-up out onto the street. Other drive-thrus like this cause a lot of accidents. Chick-Fil-A thinks their customers are too fat and lazy to get out of their cars. Is that really true?

Posted by Sparty, a resident of the Shoreline West neighborhood, on Oct 23, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Thankfully, the shared driveway that is used by In n Out burger and some office bldg that dumps cars right into the backup at Grant/237/El Camino is completely free of these problems. I credit the city council for their brave and coherent action on both locations.

Posted by Shirley, a resident of the Whisman Station neighborhood, on Oct 25, 2012 at 2:20 pm

Do council members really care about children inhaling fumes from cars?

There is a newer child-care center on E. Dana & Moorpark right above the 237 off-ramp.

Now THERE are some fumes to inhale all day. (& noise/traffic)

Who approved that business to be built and operate?

The biking/cycling is dangerous all around E. Dana.

Its not all about El Camino Real's traffic. And drive-thrus for food.

The child-care center has a crazy drop off and well as the Gold Star Gymnastics on E. Dana.

Posted by BC, a resident of the Sylvan Park neighborhood, on Nov 19, 2012 at 6:10 pm

Shirley has it right

The only good thing about the child-care center it has a big fence to keep the kids in and there is no where anyone would want to walk to so no pedestrian traffic.

The parking allotment allowed especially for the Gold Star Gymnastics was under estimated. Theyneed about 50% more space as it over flows onto the nearby buildings. Lucky most are empty / not utilize. As the Mtn View poor building plan and approvals system seem to drive out business. Like the Hackers DOJO next door.